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		<title>By: aShocka</title>
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		<dc:creator>aShocka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have thought of that too. actually i&#039;m planning to make a quick video about that and also the basics of hosting, domains and stuff (i&#039;m in web design).
when i get some time to get to it ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have thought of that too. actually i&#8217;m planning to make a quick video about that and also the basics of hosting, domains and stuff (i&#8217;m in web design).<br />
when i get some time to get to it &#8230; <img src='http://www.guerrillafreelancing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, &quot;It should only take an experienced person an hour&quot;
these projects i close instantly. it only prooves the client is a liar... it only takes an hour to get the files, study the site, read your brief and talk on the details &amp; specific needs &amp; options.... at least. 
nice post, awesome, and seing so many commenst of people feeling the same really gives a cool feeeing of not being alone it it. And actually makes you bring up a smile on the next project like this u see, than just mumbling a &quot;f**k off&quot; and move on. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, &#8220;It should only take an experienced person an hour&#8221;<br />
these projects i close instantly. it only prooves the client is a liar&#8230; it only takes an hour to get the files, study the site, read your brief and talk on the details &amp; specific needs &amp; options&#8230;. at least.<br />
nice post, awesome, and seing so many commenst of people feeling the same really gives a cool feeeing of not being alone it it. And actually makes you bring up a smile on the next project like this u see, than just mumbling a &#8220;f**k off&#8221; and move on. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Blogging: Suggestions for Your Design Blogroll &#124; PixieGirl Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Blogging: Suggestions for Your Design Blogroll &#124; PixieGirl Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yeah, friends and family will run your business into the ground with the amount of time they eat. My best advice would be to be up front and honest with your friend. Tell them that you were happy to help them out with the simple stuff, but all of that extra shit is just too much and they&#039;re either going to have to pay your rates or stop bugging you.

If you lose a friend over it, you&#039;re better off because a friend who stops talking to you over this isn&#039;t really a friend to begin with :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yeah, friends and family will run your business into the ground with the amount of time they eat. My best advice would be to be up front and honest with your friend. Tell them that you were happy to help them out with the simple stuff, but all of that extra shit is just too much and they&#8217;re either going to have to pay your rates or stop bugging you.</p>
<p>If you lose a friend over it, you&#8217;re better off because a friend who stops talking to you over this isn&#8217;t really a friend to begin with <img src='http://www.guerrillafreelancing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ronaldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just getting started on freelance web design and i think i heard all of those several times... It&#039;s sad.

And the very worst are friends who ask for &quot;small favors&quot; and as a starting freelance: &quot;Sure I can get something SIMPLE done in my SPARE time&quot; and then you get flooded with emails and phone calls rushing you. And when you get the work done you&#039;re asked to rework some &quot;issues&quot;...

One episode is currently happening to me: last week my friend said he needed badly a web page just to have some info... now i get phone calls everyday to check if I&#039;m still working on his website, now with CMS capabilities, photo galleries, document upload, etc, etc, etc.

SAVE ME!!! (at least i don&#039;t have trouble sending suspicious clients away... but friends just stay away!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just getting started on freelance web design and i think i heard all of those several times&#8230; It&#8217;s sad.</p>
<p>And the very worst are friends who ask for &#8220;small favors&#8221; and as a starting freelance: &#8220;Sure I can get something SIMPLE done in my SPARE time&#8221; and then you get flooded with emails and phone calls rushing you. And when you get the work done you&#8217;re asked to rework some &#8220;issues&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>One episode is currently happening to me: last week my friend said he needed badly a web page just to have some info&#8230; now i get phone calls everyday to check if I&#8217;m still working on his website, now with CMS capabilities, photo galleries, document upload, etc, etc, etc.</p>
<p>SAVE ME!!! (at least i don&#8217;t have trouble sending suspicious clients away&#8230; but friends just stay away!)</p>
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		<title>By: YK</title>
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		<dc:creator>YK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone seen that &quot;Web Design goes to hell&quot; comic strip?

That&#039;s what i went through recently - with a friend!!!
A friend who wants to have 60 million blogs on every topic possible, asked for some advice. I gave her some free advice (what is rong with me?) and told her i could create a simple page that would link off to all these blogs. It would take me less than an hour.  Suddenly it began to turn into an actual website, instead of a page. She was sending me 10 page docs with content and a site map and images so the page wod look exciting. After liking the simple page i created, she sent me the url to a site that she wanted it to look &quot;just like&quot;.  OMG! Was i annoyed!  She gave me the color scheme - hospital green background and the standard red and blue links with black body text - Oh my word, i couldnt believe that she wanted to drop my design for this crap that looked like someone had done it in MS Word.  I did it and told her not to affiliate my name with this as i really dont do work like this. She looked at it and then said that i should go bk to my old design. By then i was like, no i cant keep going back n forth changing stuff - this was supposed to be a quick job. I really think that this was a lesson for me. I try to &quot;help&quot; friends but they are the worst but expect the most - and then blame me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seen that &#8220;Web Design goes to hell&#8221; comic strip?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what i went through recently &#8211; with a friend!!!<br />
A friend who wants to have 60 million blogs on every topic possible, asked for some advice. I gave her some free advice (what is rong with me?) and told her i could create a simple page that would link off to all these blogs. It would take me less than an hour.  Suddenly it began to turn into an actual website, instead of a page. She was sending me 10 page docs with content and a site map and images so the page wod look exciting. After liking the simple page i created, she sent me the url to a site that she wanted it to look &#8220;just like&#8221;.  OMG! Was i annoyed!  She gave me the color scheme &#8211; hospital green background and the standard red and blue links with black body text &#8211; Oh my word, i couldnt believe that she wanted to drop my design for this crap that looked like someone had done it in MS Word.  I did it and told her not to affiliate my name with this as i really dont do work like this. She looked at it and then said that i should go bk to my old design. By then i was like, no i cant keep going back n forth changing stuff &#8211; this was supposed to be a quick job. I really think that this was a lesson for me. I try to &#8220;help&#8221; friends but they are the worst but expect the most &#8211; and then blame me.</p>
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		<title>By: YK</title>
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		<dc:creator>YK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! You hit the nail on the head.  Also, when they say something (the font, the pic, the colors) to &quot;pop&quot;. People also over-use the term &quot;clean&quot; - The site should look clean. The site should have a clean professional look.  And thn when i do that, they &quot;recommend&quot; i add more pics to make it look more exciting (cos white space is evil)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! You hit the nail on the head.  Also, when they say something (the font, the pic, the colors) to &#8220;pop&#8221;. People also over-use the term &#8220;clean&#8221; &#8211; The site should look clean. The site should have a clean professional look.  And thn when i do that, they &#8220;recommend&#8221; i add more pics to make it look more exciting (cos white space is evil)!</p>
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		<title>By: Yari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Manda Szewczyk: “I was online and found a place where I can get a website for $200.00 (or a logo for $50.00)” (My answer is always, “That sounds like a great deal! You should go for it.”)

Yes! I respond the same way. If the client truly thought they would get what they wanted for $200, they would have gone with the other guy and would have never made it as far as you. In the end, they want super cheap work that looks professionally done. Realistically, they have to make a decision: cheap work that looks cheap or professionally done work that comes with years of experience. Of course there are exceptions, people who are starting out tend to have lower rates, but when you want a website for $200... you&#039;re going to get a website that looks like you spent $200 on it.

I have found, however, that when you explain to the client the work that goes into what they&#039;re requesting, or when you call them on it (“That sounds like a great deal! You should go for it.”), if they&#039;re reasonable, they&#039;ll stick with you.

It&#039;s always good to have back-up (articles, web posts etc) to justify (I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s the word I want to use, but it&#039;s the only one I can think of at the moment) what they might consider to be higher rates and when they realize they want quality not cheap labor, they come back. Let&#039;s face it, because there are so many $50 logo sites out there, sometimes the client just doesn&#039;t know better. The only way to change this misconception is to educate them and spread the word!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Manda Szewczyk: “I was online and found a place where I can get a website for $200.00 (or a logo for $50.00)” (My answer is always, “That sounds like a great deal! You should go for it.”)</p>
<p>Yes! I respond the same way. If the client truly thought they would get what they wanted for $200, they would have gone with the other guy and would have never made it as far as you. In the end, they want super cheap work that looks professionally done. Realistically, they have to make a decision: cheap work that looks cheap or professionally done work that comes with years of experience. Of course there are exceptions, people who are starting out tend to have lower rates, but when you want a website for $200&#8230; you&#8217;re going to get a website that looks like you spent $200 on it.</p>
<p>I have found, however, that when you explain to the client the work that goes into what they&#8217;re requesting, or when you call them on it (“That sounds like a great deal! You should go for it.”), if they&#8217;re reasonable, they&#8217;ll stick with you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always good to have back-up (articles, web posts etc) to justify (I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the word I want to use, but it&#8217;s the only one I can think of at the moment) what they might consider to be higher rates and when they realize they want quality not cheap labor, they come back. Let&#8217;s face it, because there are so many $50 logo sites out there, sometimes the client just doesn&#8217;t know better. The only way to change this misconception is to educate them and spread the word!</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the classic &quot;I don&#039;t have any capital to pay so I&#039;m looking for someone to do the work and become an equity partner...&quot;?

I get that one semi-frequently, and it always strikes me as a sure sign their business/project will fail before it starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the classic &#8220;I don&#8217;t have any capital to pay so I&#8217;m looking for someone to do the work and become an equity partner&#8230;&#8221;?</p>
<p>I get that one semi-frequently, and it always strikes me as a sure sign their business/project will fail before it starts.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a buzz killer of all buzz killers: elance.com

I swear, I&#039;ve heard every one of those phrases you presented in this article there. The clients on such sites know or quickly find out they are in the company of starving designers from poor or developing economies who will charge an exchange equivalent of $65.00 American dollars for an entire brochure or book cover, so yes, the cheap skatery is prolific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a buzz killer of all buzz killers: elance.com</p>
<p>I swear, I&#8217;ve heard every one of those phrases you presented in this article there. The clients on such sites know or quickly find out they are in the company of starving designers from poor or developing economies who will charge an exchange equivalent of $65.00 American dollars for an entire brochure or book cover, so yes, the cheap skatery is prolific.</p>
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